The person handling Harmattan ramp down activities in the first instance. Waiting on a response. I know what I am doing.
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The person handling Harmattan ramp down activities in the first instance. Waiting on a response. I know what I am doing.
[QUOTE=hamishwillee;906808]The person handling Harmattan ramp down activities in the first instance. Waiting on a response. I know what I am doing.[/QUOTE]
Sotiris's successor? He/she's been mighty communicative throughout the whole process >.> In any case, thanks, I guess...
I await your Chinese whispered non-answer, + zero feedback from devs who'd actually know what happened (& is happening) to the entire framework.
So from this whole thing we get that nothing will most likely ever happen. Which I guess is ok given Nokia's strategy, but at least some clear comunication would be welcomed.
Perhaps there is noone left to take care of this either anymore..
[QUOTE=jalyst;906810]Sotori's successor? He/she's been mighty communicative throughout the whole process >.> In any case, thanks, I guess...
I await your Chinese whispered non-answer, + zero feedback from devs who'd actually know what happened (& is happening) to the entire framework.[/QUOTE]
There is a Sotori successor?
[QUOTE=tkastlunger;906836]So from this whole thing we get that nothing will most likely ever happen. Which I guess is ok given Nokia's strategy[/QUOTE]
It's not okay, they've failed to clearly articulate what's going on for almost an [U]entire yr[/U] now, [U]long[/U] before Harmattan/Symbian/Qt was phased out, read the original thread.
Yes, there was someone who stepped into Sotiris's role (of course it's quite different in nature now), I have their contact details, their name escapes me...
I would contact them directly, but I'm trying to do things via "proper channels", & am hoping that for once; "Nokia gives a shit"....
[QUOTE=jalyst;906851]It's not okay, they've failed to clearly articulate what's going on for almost an [U]entire yr[/U] now, [U]long[/U] before Harmattan/Symbian/Qt was phased out, read the original thread.
Yes, there was someone who stepped into Sotiris's role (of course it's quite different in nature now), I have their contact details, their name escapes me...
I would contact them directly, but I'm trying to do things via "proper channels", & am hoping that for once; "Nokia gives a shit"....[/QUOTE]
Obviously not working. Go for the direct way. Even tho even [I]that[/I] might not solve things. And if you could try to find out what is going on with this whole Harmattan tragedy behind the scenes, it would help.
PROBLEM : SECURE INFO EXPOSED
ISSUE : gconf contains pre-shared wireless (and perhaps others) passwords + keys.
ANY APPLICATION can EASILY read the keys from gconf registry and thus steal access to ANY WLAN network.
URGENCY: HIGH
PRECONDITIONS
PR1.3 firmware
STEPS LEADING TO THE PROBLEM:
Take some images in summer time (daylight savings time)
load images via USB to computer
Note that the times of the files are UTC times
wait until normal time
compare time stamps of images in N9 and in computer using USB
EXPECTED OUTCOME:
Time stamps should be equal
ACTUAL OUTCOME:
times differ by one hour (= offset of daylight savings time?)
FREQUENCY OF OCCURENCE:
Probably connected to daylight savings time and normal time switching.
WORKAROUND:
Well, I noticed the bug when I updated my backup using rsync (in my linux PC): It overwrote the existing files that it did not overwrite before. I had set rsync to skip overwriting based on modification time. Workarounds would be to set rsync (or equivalent) to skip based on size only or checksum, though the former may not be accurate, and the latter is slower.
[QUOTE=tkastlunger;907170]PROBLEM : SECURE INFO EXPOSED
ISSUE : gconf contains pre-shared wireless (and perhaps others) passwords + keys.
ANY APPLICATION can EASILY read the keys from gconf registry and thus steal access to ANY WLAN network.
URGENCY: HIGH[/QUOTE]
That has been an urgent issue for over a year now. :mad: I guess not enough N9's have been sold to gather an angry mob large enough to impress Nokia, let alone to make Nokia care for these customers.
I've been submitting bugs to harmattan-bugs, and while most of them were "assigned" (whatever that may indicate) none of them were addressed in PR1.3. It seems to me that it, and these bug reports here, were all in vein.
Not that I will ever consider buying an ultra-limiting Windows Phone device, but given how Nokia treats their premium-price-paying and [I]involved[/I] N9 customers I will not consider buying a Nokia at all.
[QUOTE=Fuzzillogic;907700]
Not that I will ever consider buying an ultra-limiting Windows Phone device, but given how Nokia treats their premium-price-paying and [I]involved[/I] N9 customers I will not consider buying a Nokia at all.[/QUOTE]
I could not agree more. Nokia's customer service sucks big time.
That's why this thread got renamed by me to "forgotten bugs memo" (in honor to another in-famous Nokian memo) :)
Anyhow, jokes apart, the chances to get this fixed are VERY low, according to Nokia. But still not 0.
I wonder if they have someone who CAN actually fix any of these bugs?
If not, why dont they just open a dev channel to the community - and WE make the N9 the phone it is meant to be?
I was considering offering help to Nokia to fix this issue. But I am not sure it would be considered at all from their Management.
[QUOTE=Fuzzillogic;907700]That has been an urgent issue for over a year now. :mad: I guess not enough N9's have been sold to gather an angry mob large enough to impress Nokia, let alone to make Nokia care for these customers.
I've been submitting bugs to harmattan-bugs, and while most of them were "assigned" (whatever that may indicate) none of them were addressed in PR1.3. It seems to me that it, and these bug reports here, were all in vein.
Not that I will ever consider buying an ultra-limiting Windows Phone device, but given how Nokia treats their premium-price-paying and [I]involved[/I] N9 customers I will not consider buying a Nokia at all.[/QUOTE]
Nokia still says in [url]http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/[/url] front page that "We will continue to develop critical bug fixes related to security, performance and reliability of the device. If you have unreported issues that fall into these categories, please do contact us through the Nokia Developer discussion forum." Also please note what a retired Nokia developer admin Ron tells at [url]http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?234396-Harmattan-Bug-Reports&p=888267&viewfull=1#post888267[/url] about this thread.
[QUOTE=tkastlunger;907714]That's why this thread got renamed by me to "forgotten bugs memo" (in honor to another in-famous Nokian memo) :)
Anyhow, jokes apart, the chances to get this fixed are VERY low, according to Nokia. But still not 0.
I wonder if they have someone who CAN actually fix any of these bugs?
If not, why dont they just open a dev channel to the community - and WE make the N9 the phone it is meant to be?
I was considering offering help to Nokia to fix this issue. But I am not sure it would be considered at all from their Management.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=jarno76;907718]Nokia still says in [url]http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/[/url] front page that "We will continue to develop critical bug fixes related to security, performance and reliability of the device. If you have unreported issues that fall into these categories, please do contact us through the Nokia Developer discussion forum." Also please note what a retired Nokia developer admin Ron tells at [url]http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?234396-Harmattan-Bug-Reports&p=888267&viewfull=1#post888267[/url] about this thread.[/QUOTE]
Given that :
[QUOTE=Ron]Since the bugzilla bug database is only accepting critical bugs, this can serve as a repository.[/QUOTE]
I would like to report this GConf backdoor to the bugzilla as well, considering the issue _IS_ pretty critical I am sure we all agree it falls in the category of bugs
that [B]have the privilege[/B] to be posted there.
So what you think Hamishwilee, sawwy?
[QUOTE=Fuzzillogic;907700]That has been an urgent issue for over a year now. :mad: I guess not enough N9's have been sold to gather an angry mob large enough to impress Nokia, let alone to make Nokia care for these customers.
I've been submitting bugs to harmattan-bugs, and while most of them were "assigned" (whatever that may indicate) none of them were addressed in PR1.3. It seems to me that it, and these bug reports here, were all in vein.
Not that I will ever consider buying an ultra-limiting Windows Phone device, but given how Nokia treats their premium-price-paying and [I]involved[/I] N9 customers I will not consider buying a Nokia at all.[/QUOTE]
Nokia brand is not trustworty anymore since elop step in into nokia.If nokia cant even fix a bug in their own os then how can we trust a brand that don't even own any os or should i say abandon their own os.I pity harmattan users because now the harmattan basically is just supported by its community only and as new os there are still a lot bug not fix..Sorry for my bad and weird english grammar
[QUOTE=tkastlunger;907719]So what you think Hamishwilee, sawwy?[/QUOTE]
I think that I'm still waiting on comms to provide me with a canonical statement of whether we're still supporting critical bugs, and how. Until I get that anything I might post would be a personal opinion only.
The canonical statement is that support is unchanged:
[QUOTE]We continue to monitor and assign bug fixes for the Nokia N9, selecting those that are most critical for firmware and software updates.[/QUOTE]
It is up to the program to determine what is a critical defect.