[moved] On.device debugging no longer works

[tamhanna]

In the past, I was able to on-device-debug my protected-range UID application on the handset via the trick taught to me by ltomulata - I signed the sis file with opejn signed online, and then installed it an dwent on to run the program.

Unfortunately, this no longer works as of SDK v1.0 - the SDK always insists on recreating the SIS file as following:

***Building project "LocaNote" for configuration "Phone Debug (GCCE) [S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0]"
HookLogger\;
EPOCROOT=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\
***Printing environment variables modified from default:

...

NO_DEPENDENCIES=-nd
MAKE=make -j 4

Working Directory: C:/Symbian/Carbide/workspace/LocaNote/group

***Makefile structures up to date. Skipping 'bldmake bldfiles'

***Invoking abld command
perl.exe -S ABLD.PL \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\ export  
  make -r  -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\EXPORT.make" EXPORT VERBOSE=-s
Nothing to do

Total Time: 0 sec

***Generating abld makefile.

***Invoking abld command
perl.exe -S ABLD.PL \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\ makefile gcce Icons_aif_scalable_dc  
  make -r  -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\GCCE.make" MAKEFILEICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC VERBOSE=-s
make -j 4 -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE MAKMAKE

Total Time: 0 sec

***Generating abld makefile.

***Invoking abld command
perl.exe -S ABLD.PL \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\ makefile gcce help  
  make -r  -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\GCCE.make" MAKEFILEHELP VERBOSE=-s
make -j 4 -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "HELP.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\HELP\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE MAKMAKE
Converting rtf files to .ptml.xml

rtf2ptml "-idC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\/" "-odC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\/" "-ox.ptml.xml" "-dtdfile:///C:/S60/devices/S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0/epoc32/tools/cshlpcmp/dtd/" "-xslfile:///C:/S60/devices/S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0/epoc32/tools/cshlpcmp/xsl/" "helptext"

Converting .ptml.xml files to .csptml.xml

ProcessingC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\helptext.ptml.xml
Converting .csptml.xml files to .asptml.xml

processing C:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\helptext.csptml.xml
Converting .cust.xml file to .cshlp.xml

Converting .asptml.xml files to .cshlp.xml

processingC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\custom.xml
processingC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\helptext.asptml.xml
Warning: Character style 'hyperlink' not defined. Styling ignored
Converting cshlp file to EPOCHelp file

C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\release\winc\urel\cshlpwtr "-ifC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\LocaNoteLiteHelp.cshlp.xml" "-ofC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\LocaNoteLiteHelp.hlp"

Extracting contexts into a cpp header file C:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\LocaNoteLiteHelp.hlp.hrh

Total Time: 1 sec

***Invoking abld command
perl.exe -S ABLD.PL \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\ library gcce  
  make -r  -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\GCCE.make" LIBRARY VERBOSE=-s
make -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE LIB
make -s  -r -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\LOCANOTE\GCCE\LOCANOTE.GCCE" LIBRARY
make -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "HELP.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\HELP\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE LIB

Total Time: 1 sec

***Invoking abld command
perl.exe -S ABLD.PL \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\ resource gcce udeb  
  make -r  -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\GCCE.make" RESOURCE CFG=UDEB VERBOSE=-s
make -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE CFG=UDEB RESOURCE
make -s  -r -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\LOCANOTE\GCCE\LOCANOTE.GCCE" RESOURCEUDEB
make -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "HELP.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\HELP\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE CFG=UDEB RESOURCE

Total Time: 2 sec

***Invoking abld command
perl.exe -S ABLD.PL \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\ target gcce udeb  
  make -r  -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\GCCE.make" TARGET CFG=UDEB VERBOSE=-s
make -j 4 -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\ICONS_AIF_SCALABLE_DC\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE CFG=UDEB BLD
make -j 4 -s  -r -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\LOCANOTE\GCCE\LOCANOTE.GCCE" UDEB
make -j 4 -s  -C \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group -f "HELP.MK" TO_ROOT=..\..\..\..\.. EPOCBLD=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\HELP\GCCE TO_BLDINF=..\..\..\..\..\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group PLATFORM=GCCE CFG=UDEB BLD
Converting rtf files to .ptml.xml

rtf2ptml "-idC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\/" "-odC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\/" "-ox.ptml.xml" "-dtdfile:///C:/S60/devices/S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0/epoc32/tools/cshlpcmp/dtd/" "-xslfile:///C:/S60/devices/S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0/epoc32/tools/cshlpcmp/xsl/" "helptext"

Converting .ptml.xml files to .csptml.xml

ProcessingC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\helptext.ptml.xml
Converting .csptml.xml files to .asptml.xml

processing C:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\helptext.csptml.xml
Converting .cust.xml file to .cshlp.xml

Converting .asptml.xml files to .cshlp.xml

processingC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\custom.xml
processingC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\helptext.asptml.xml
Warning: Character style 'hyperlink' not defined. Styling ignored
Converting cshlp file to EPOCHelp file

C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\release\winc\urel\cshlpwtr "-ifC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\LocaNoteLiteHelp.cshlp.xml" "-ofC:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\LocaNoteLiteHelp.hlp"

Extracting contexts into a cpp header file C:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\help\LocaNoteLiteHelp.hlp.hrh

Total Time: 3 sec

***Invoking abld command

...


Total Time: 4 sec

***Invoking abld command
perl.exe -S ABLD.PL \Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\ test export  
  make -r  -f "\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\EPOC32\BUILD\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\EXPORTtest.make" EXPORT VERBOSE=-s
Nothing to do

Total Time: 4 sec

***Build Complete

***Invoking makesis.exe ....
C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\tools\makesis.exe C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\build\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\_resolvedLocaNote.pkg C:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\sis\LocaNote.sis 

...No key/cert defined. Generating dummy key/cert for self-signing (key-gen.key/cert-gen.cer)...
No passphrase defined. Using: "DefaultPassword"

***Invoking makekeys....
C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\tools\makekeys.exe -cert -password DefaultPassword -len 2048 -dname "CN=JoeBloggs OR=Acme" key-gen.key cert-gen.cer 

Existing private key will be used: 
Created certificate: 

***Invoking signsis.exe....
C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\tools\signsis.exe -s C:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\sis\LocaNote.sis C:\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\sis\LocaNote.sisx C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\build\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\cert-gen.cer C:\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\epoc32\build\Symbian\Carbide\workspace\LocaNote\group\key-gen.key DefaultPassword

Of course, installation then fails with the message about sis installation failing due to invalid signing.

Anybody have any ideas on how to tackle this issue?

All the best
Tam Hanna

[Symbian_Neil]

In the past, I was able to on-device-debug my protected-range UID application on the handset via the trick taught to me by ltomulata - I signed the sis file with opejn signed online, and then installed it an dwent on to run the program.

Unfortunately, this no longer works as of SDK v1.0 - the SDK always insists on recreating the SIS file as following:
Of course, installation then fails with the message about sis installation failing due to invalid signing.

Anybody have any ideas on how to tackle this issue?

All the best
Tam Hanna

What SDK?

Well regarding signing issue, is it possible that your application uses capabilities not supported by self-signed certificate?

Well you could ofcourse try open signed on debug phone build and deploy it yourself(havent done it, but it might work).

[wizard_hu_]

If you like red things:

[CODE]
***Building project "LocaNote" for configuration "Phone Debug (GCCE) [S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0]"
HookLogger\;
EPOCROOT=\S60\devices\S60_5th_Edition_SDK_v1.0\

It might be an S60 5th edition SDK.

Tamhanna: check if you can install anything.

[ltomuta]

The SDK should have really nothing to do with this. ODD is a feature of Carbide.c++ (btw, I'm moving this to the relevant forum) and it is Carbide that must ensure (or should be tweaked) that the right properly signed SISX file is being sent to the device during the ODD initialization sequence.

I don't have Carbide.c++ on this PC so I can't look for some hints but I hope to find the time tomorrow at the office. However, Open Signed Online support is critical in Carbide.c++ so if this is really broken it must be reported as a bug to Carbide.c++

I try to report at least a bug per week to Carbide.c++, I hope you guys do at least one per day

[dan.podwall@nokia.com]

There's two things to check:

1) It sounds like Carbide is set up to build and sign a sis file. If your goal is to use a pre-signed sis file then that needs to be turned off.
- Make sure your debug build configuration is current
- Go to the project properties (right-click on project, choose Properties)
- Go to the SIS builder tab. There's probably one item there, with the Enabled checkbox checked. Uncheck it and click OK.

That should stop Carbide from rebuilding the sis file.

2) Next you have to tell the debugger to download your pre-signed sis file.
- Open the Debug Configurations dialog
- Choose the launch configuration you use to start the debugger with your app
- Click on the Installation tab
- Make sure the installation file refers to the sis file

A couple of comments:
- debugging will only work is you signed the debug build of your app and all the sources match what was signed
- every time you want to change any code you'll need to re-sign the sis file online. That's very slow turnaround. Getting a developer certificate so you can locally sign as part of the build process is much quicker

[tamhanna]

Hi,
sorry for the long aewayness (love my health).

I now got a developer certificate viua, well, and it works flawlessly!

ALl the best
Tam