Cert Prob On 6230,6230i,6021

[doronguy]

when downloading app via wap, throw "file size too big" which is not true, and then when striping the code sign it works.

i have Verisign Cert.

any clue ?? should i use some other cert or properties ??


Guy.

[hartti]

Why do you say that the file size is not too big?
What is the size of your JAR file and what is the size of your JAD file?

Are you using a lot of JAD attributes inside the JAD file (note that also the JAD file can be too long)?

Hartti

[doronguy]

Thanks for the replay Hartti,

Well because it shows the file size on the screen before downloading
and it less then the jar MAX size spec ... and i use only 3 custom attributes
except the attributes of the code signing ...

Guy.

[hartti]

What is the size of the JAD file in question?

Hartti

[juarezjunior]

Hi Guy,

"when downloading app via wap, throw "file size too big" which is not true"
Besides Hartti's question, are you able to download and install other apps? Are you sure you have enough free memory, maybe the AMS/JAM is getting starved, but I agree that it is strange to be happening in 3 different devices... I do not know what the problem can be...

Best,

[doronguy]

the size of the jad file is 5k .... when im not signing the app it works fine.

[juarezjunior]

Hi Guy,

May you provide your JAD content here for analysis?

Br,

[loubserj]

I have found through experimentation on the Nokia 6230i that as soon as the .jad file is bigger than 5000 bytes, the application does not work anymore.

For example, it is possible to download it via bluetooth, but when trying to launch it, it is shown in gray in the Collection folder and an 'Invalid application' error message is displayed when trying to launch it, also when downloading it via WAP the following error message is displayed: File too large

So it seems sounds as if your problem is simply that the .jad file is just too big(I presume the same limit applies to the Nokia 6230 and 6021)

[nicenouman]

loubserj i tested your theory and you are write. but i wonder what u want to place in ur jad file that its size goes till 5000 bytes. i am using my application on nokia 6230i and it only has a jad file of 200 bytes.

[doronguy]

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[loubserj]

As soon as a MIDlet is signed (especially when you have a certificate that is chained) it is quite easy to get quite near to the 5000 bytes barrier.
Furthermore the MIDlet-Permissions: (or MIDlet-Permissions-Opt) also MUST be present when a MIDlet is signed, taking up further space.

[nicenouman]

so the main size of the jad file increases due to sigining. hmmmm i was thinking about getting my application signed and it is being used on nokia 6230i, now i need to rethink.
thanx for sharing the info.

[traud]

doronguy, what happens after removing (only) the ‘MIDlet-Certificate-1-3’ line?

[hartti]

Note also that the 5KB is mentioned in the JTWI specification as part of the standard size application and hence it is likely used as a maximum size for JAD on a number of phones.

Hartti

[doronguy]

Hi traud, well removing this line works !!!!!! can you give any explanation ?

any way thanks a lot !!!!!!