nokia 6600 mrouter crippled, GPRS ONLY!

[dalore]

Dear Nokia,

Why have you crippled the mrouter on the 6600?

With the 3650/7650 once you have a mrouter connection, you are able to browse the internet with it. If you do the same in the 6600 it will ask you to use GPRS. Why is this superior faster tcp/ip access method disabled in the 6600? It makes it extremely difficulty to develop wireless enterprise apps if it forces them to use the extremely slow and expensive gprs option.

Nokia this is un-acceptable to us developers. How are we meant to develop on the phone without running up a huge GPRS bill ourselves?

I thought symbian was an "open" system, apparently not. Seems like the carriers and Nokia are in bed together to prevent us from creating useful apps that would like to use tcp/ip over bluetooth or IR.

Also the MRouter way of connecting and establishing a connection was too cubersome, with no automation or multiple phone support at all. It also seems it is impossible to create a bluetooth PAN profile support module, and now with this latest move by nokia to disable mrouter, I don't think they will ever create a PAN support.

Nokia the 6600 is an excellcent device, apart from the disabling of the mrouter. It has potential to be anything, but with the GPRS network option only, it is severly crippled. Bluetooth PAN support will open the market up for a whole lot of symbian applications.

Nokia I request (tho I know it will fall on deaf ears), that you reenable the internet access via bluetooth or IR for the 6600, and that you also develop the bluetooth PAN profile for easy networking. You can't expect a company who wants to use these phone to wireless enable their workforce to use GPRS all the time.

Creating a bluetooth PAN profile for symbian would let you use your 6600 now as a laptop uses wifi. Bluetooth hotspots can spring up and people would find they can do alot of what they need on the 6600. Nokia, please don't shoot yourselves in the foot just cause the carriers want to make more money, you should enable more network options on the 6600, which will sell more phones.

had my little rant, very dissapointed
dalore

[antonylogin]

Under linux i can get a ppp connection over bluetooth with the 6600, i can ping it and it replies on port TCP/3000. When it is active you see a (O) symbol on the top of the screen.

So the feature is there.

But nothing shows up in the connection manager. And application like Opera show the dialog to connect trought GPRS. Is there a way for developper to bypass that step and use the connection that actually exists ?

It is critical for us developper of TCP/IP applications.

[peebz]

i have another odd problem. the PC Suite crashes often and asks for restart, though the IR remains connected.

this happens if i try to switch my transfers between image and file, and then decide to sync files.

it invariably crashes to shutdown. any improved PC suite for the 6600 released. i am using the default CD.

[anek]

here is hot topic for us.. please

[wing0custom]

yes
that is very important for our developer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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[dalore]

Remember this is a nokia developers forum. Its mainly for communication between developers. Nokia reps do poke their head in here from time to time, but generally you can't count on them to read and respond to all the posts. Especially one like this.

Question, has anyone actually emailed nokia about this and asked why did they remove this functions from the 6600? Hopefully someone with a bit more time then me on their hands could.

dalore

[jkekoni]

How did you get N3650/N7650 into Internet by BlueTooth?

The only thing i see in the menus are CSD and GPRS connection.

I assume that my XP pro needs some extra things, in order to serve as PPP server over the virtual BT com port?

Yes I am using Win XP for symbian development, so Linux spesific answers whereas they are allways intrested, do not solve my problems before nokia announces SDK1.* for Linux.

[dalore]

Just install the nokia pc suite that came with your phone. If thats connected via bluetooth or infrared, your phone has net access.

There is no menu item on the phone to set the net, also the default web browser on the phone wont use your bluetooth connection, but others apps will, ie opera and your own developed tcp apps.

basically if you see a mrouter connection icon on your bottom right of your startbar, its connected

[Rohith]

Just wondering, is there any update on this... can we now connect to internet using bluetooth??